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feistymiss
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« on: March 26, 2010, 06:40:43 pm »

Miele suggested i take my time trying to break things down to what affects me on a daily basis .. it seems for me, i work on two levels.  ive always done this.  i can talk to others, but it seems more there is more going on inside, than outside which always kept me feeling different or apart.  i was diagnosed with anxiety and stress some years ago and since i moved, well it seems i have lost so much confidence i dont feel i take part any more.  its not dissasociating.  i do that, but the state of mind i am in is more present than not on a daily basis...the helpless, not being part of, feeling
its not about going out, i cant, well i will, if im not alone.  thats part of the Bpd affecting me, along with feeling abandoned and feeling empty but then i tend to react more with the anxiety.  im not even conscious of it, i just dip in and out of fluttery sweating panicky states
i dont socialise, i dont cope with going out or being around other people.  i feel very vulnerable if i go out and start to feel aggressive
but then like i hear from any of my kids, thats it, zoom, im on top of the world.  i cant replace the loss, i mean, you know, if someone were to suggest i go work with kids, i cant do that, im not consistent enough, i cant do anything now, and im getting where i do less in the home, cos of this inconsistency. 
i try things, but i give up.  i never use to, i feel these things are age related as well as low self esteem.  if i push myself too much i cant cope, if i do too much im whacked in other ways, for longer so i have to try tailor what i can do and accept it
ive been a stay at home mum/wife, altho i worked 25 years ago.  i couldnt work now.  i dont think there is anything i can do now.  ive tried to find things to do, but i rarely do fun.  in the nice weather we go on the beach, we are out a lot more then but even that i am struggling with now.  i cant think of anything to help or how to do something that will help myself and i dont expect anyone can suggest.  im very grateful i have my husband. 
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Conrad
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 10:12:07 pm »

Do you speak with him about this?

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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 03:09:07 am »

Feisty...you describe very much how i feel.  Its hard to explain really.  I put all my labels on my info: bpd/bi-polar/aspergers's/ and i think some form of ADD now which i'm reading about and the rad/AD attachement issues.  Poeple that don't go thru this can't understand.  Its nice to here about others that go thru the same thing as odd as that sounds it means in some way we are not as alone as we utterly feel, and yes thats the BPD speaking, but its still very real.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 12:24:50 pm »

Feisty


A couple of questions

1. Is your husband having the same difficulties with socializing ?
2. What would you like to see yourself doing

if you can set a small target.  Perhaps your husband could help you make that a very positive motivating experience that gives you ( both?) the courage to do again. And build on.

Some people are happy to spend the majority of time home alone others not.

It matters not what " society" or any one else thinks. It's about what you ( and your hubby) want. 

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feistymiss
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 01:28:29 pm »

that was nice of everyone to reply, i appreciate this.  yes like BPH says, and you too Andi, i think ive gone thro the same, pressures, to conform.  when i was a child absorbing it all i couldnt understand and as it got worse and i got older i became more confused which strained when i came across sensibilities and normality.  this was thro my childhood to my teens.  at that time i had lived and travelled back and forth to South Africa, so i was open to all kinds of interpretation.  some of my memories are great, which is lovely, but many are very very confusing to me.  mostly when with other people.  its as if other people talk a different language to me.  so to backtrack a little, my mum pushed me to perform, oh i bet she just loved those potty training days, ok not to go off track, she wanted and she pushed to get a child who was going to be as independent of her as early as possible.  in some ways yes i coped with that.  i was adequate to a degree, but even then it was as if big chunks were missing.  first it started with academically, with moving about, you miss where the rest of your peer group are and i was by this time not the most confident of children but i had a pushy mother.  we had already emigrated, leaving family behind, and entering new territory and experience i found school life to be quite harsh, but i think this went across the board, it was a cultural thing as well as the shock of not knowing where you are.  we found socially we mixed with other emigrant families and at school there was a lot of competition.  i moved about again but must have settled to a degree.  and by the time i was 12 i think, i was made head girl of my junior school.  this was a great honor for me tho my mum trashed it by stating she was also a head girl so that it was no big deal.  and it was around this time my confidence took a nose dive.  i also went to live with my auntie who i loved, but then this put me back into extended family influence which was a mixed bag and back to a culture which was my own, but which i had missed out huge chunks on again.  i was close to my grandma but my brother who i cherished, who i was close to, no one else bothered with and i have an abiding memory of my grandad walloping my brother, and me being very very distressed by this and trying to get him off.  my grandad died shortly in this time frame and i always associate him as a man bullying my brother.  a great deal of unhappiness again, when i went back to south africa yet again.  my dad hadnt got work, or to the standard they wanted and south africa represented social and financial security.  but my mom was not happy this time to go back and this over-rode our security.  i was also now 15 and struggling to find a place academically as well as some security in the home.  my brother was just entering his teens too and he was always in trouble, running away, fighting, to the extent he was expelled from his school and my mum sent him to boarding school !!!  this was a shock for me to have him apart from me.

sorry its all coming out again.  anyway, despite trying very hard, with the home life as it was and despite being work capable, we came back to the UK (correction i lived in south africa on my own, my parents and brother went back and it was only when i was ill i came back to UK) and from then, with little connection to others, things were viewed, by me, and possibly of me, as me being weird.  there was so much underpinning me all the time

if i had a mother who had been supportive, kind, loving, considerate, things could have been so much more different

and whilst i had gained i had also lost
successive relationships, i have had four, including both my husbands, so im a tryer, thats for sure.  but like you say Peace, feeling different is hard to counteract.  socially, to my mind, people need a quick fix solution, a short-hand as it were, in order to get in as much in as short a time as possible, so i persevered, in so many ways, but had no time for me that was fun, i didnt connect with others unless it ws thro trauma, chaos or pain and now i should be able to talk about progress/grandchildren/work achievements etc and those are not part of my sphere.  im too "cultured" as my therapist said, to do "!basket weaving" and whilst i like to be sociable, i find it hard to understand or relate, even in small bites as it were

i used to go to yoga and swimming but as my confidence plummeted, i became so vulnerable and felt very much "on show" and i couldnt cope with that any more

it makes a lot of difference, to be able to connect, and with others understanding, like Peace and BPh, this really helps

my daugher who has her own mental illness understood as she struggles identically...thats another posting

i dont feel i have things in common with neighbours, or socially as i feel other people are false, or its possible they have to protect themselves too.  i can understand others cant make time for me, i dont know if i could have someone on my doorstep or on the phone wanting me and now i find i have a phone on silent, and i dont attend to the door but thats prob my mind racing and trying to fit in.  when i first moved i thought "make an effort", smile, approach others, say hello, etc, and generically people dont make that effort now, but it got me nowhere.  i was in my home for 6 months on my own, and not one neighbour approached to see if i was coping or had moved in, if i had settled or what

ive added this post not being as negative today, but on a more negative day then i feel as if that brick wall Andi should be on top of me !  your replies really helped and i will hope i can be there for you, when you feel like this
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feistymiss
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 01:40:00 pm »

awww Miele, thank you.  my husband actually is struggling too, but at the same time we are both very comfortable in our company and less so in others.  when we first got together he was extremely shy and this was a result of lack of confidence.  i have encouraged him to speak more, on the phone and in company, and i dont berate him.  (ha i told you we were kindred spirits, hence why he and i understood each other)  he has to speak up now, when i dont make sense or become agitated, or at the very least, remove me (and possibly others) from harm and he is not emotional as i am, ie he has the benefit of calm and hindsight where i work shooting from every angle !
i enjoy going out with him, but i have days where i am not well enough, more now.  where i spend days so low, or im crying, or wrecked from being emotionally overwrought etc.  especially if we have confrontational situations or i have to travel etc.  we enjoy our home and are hoping to ground ourselves more this year.  but its more my own personal development, i dont know what to do, how to do, as in i cant follow knitting/crochet patterns, i cant remember, i find its useful to watch youtube or online links but i cant always do that, and the frustration becomes intense.  its the same with my memory, i can cook, but if im not !"on that wavelength, that day" then im wasting my time, and the same with cooking.  so i spend time doing games online, as i can cope, to a degree with the mind of that.  its not a lot to offer back and i dont know what else i could, or should be doing, to fill my time.  if i were doing something in the garden, i could wander off, i often start jobs i dont complete when im in this state.  i dont want to spend my time cleaning etc as i always had but thats a blessing in disguise, and i dont like being as disorganised (for me) than i was but i try to get dressed daily, to shower, to do my hair, to take with me things i need, if i go out, i am creative but i dont always follow or cope with that, i do have a room i use so i can get things out and then return to ... its more, i dont know how to fill myself, when i feel ****, i tend to watch stuff on pc or tv thats ive earmarked for when im crying in order to ground me and calm/settle me

what do others do, who are so afflicted ?
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feistymiss
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2010, 07:19:41 pm »

what i should ask is how others cope with their day and what they actually do ?
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